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		<title>Rachat de Sun par Oracle, Mysql ne craint rien !</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Philippe Humeau</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sun, Mysql &#038; Oracle : Que va t'il se passer ?
Que va t'il advenir de Sun et de Mysql ? Pourquoi Oracle à rachter Sun ? Voici mon idée sur la question :)]]></description>
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<h1 style="text-align: justify;">Résumé des épisodes précédents<span style="text-decoration: underline;"><br />
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<p style="text-align: justify;">- Janvier 2008 : Sun achète Mysql pour 1 Milliard là où Oracle proposait 750 Millions $<br />
- Avril 2009 : Oracle rachète Sun pour plus de 7 milliards &#8230;<br />
- Avril 2009 : Tout le monde flippe pour Mysql</p>
<h1 style="text-align: justify;">La mariée</h1>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Sun c&#8217;est une société d&#8217;ingénierie vénérable qui a été parmi les premières à créer des serveurs. Chez Sun la conception c&#8217;est important, l&#8217;ingénierie encore plus et on fait tout à la main avec amour. Résultat, souvent précurseur incompris, Sun n&#8217;a pas que des réussites à son actif mais quand même de très belles choses, un parc, un savoir faire et des machines de pointes. Ses propres processeurs Ultraparc et Sparc64, ses architectures, ses bus de données, des milliers de brevets.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Sun c&#8217;est aussi du logiciel. Solaris et OpenSolaris pour les operating systems (performants et surtout très robustes), Java pour les langages, la suite openoffice pour le bureau. Mine de rien, déjà, ca pèse un peu lourd tout ca.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Et bien sur&#8230;&#8230;. Mysql.</p>
<h1>Mysql ne craint rien !</h1>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Mysql est la base de données qui a soutenu le développement de l&#8217;opensource. La plus répandue et utilisée au monde. Et Oracle, avant tout le métier d&#8217;origine&#8230; C&#8217;est la base de données. Mais&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Larry Ellison a parfois &#8220;acheté pour tuer&#8221; mais là, il domine complètement le segment de la base de données. De la TPE au très grand compte. Il peut faire migrer les Mysql vers de l&#8217;Oracle quand le compte grossit, faire de la pub sur la clientèle de Mysql, bref&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Pourquoi tuer Mysql ? De toute façon, ceux qui l&#8217;utilise n&#8217;ont pas le budget pour de l&#8217;Oracle.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">En plus, tuer un soft opensource c&#8217;est très dur. En effet, d&#8217;autres feront une autre mouture demain et le pari sera perdu. C&#8217;est déjà un peu le cas avec MariaDB et Monty mais ca pourrait empirer si Oracle se montre agressif envers Mysql. Au bout de plus de 6 mois, Mysql existe toujours, il est maintenu, rien n&#8217;a réellement changé. Mysql est même sur la Home d&#8217;Oracle, déclaration sur la page de Mysql dans le site d&#8217;Oracle :</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><em>&#8220;Oracle will continue to develop and enhance MySQL along with Oracle’s other open source database technologies, Oracle Berkeley DB, the leading open source embedded database, and Oracle InnoDB, the most popular transactional storage engine for MySQL.MySQL customers will benefit from Oracle’s world-class support and training services. MySQL developers and partners will find new opportunities as MySQL becomes a certified part of Oracle’s open, complete, and integrated stack of technology—from application to disk.&#8221;</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Si Elisson ne tient pas sa promesse, il va se mettre à dos le milieu de l&#8217;opensource et se faire détester&#8230; Pas très malin et Elisson, il est tout sauf idiot.</p>
<h1 style="text-align: justify;">Conclusion</h1>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">La raison de la fusion est (presque) expliquée en homepage du site de Sun et sur celui d&#8217;Oracle : &#8220;Hardware, Software, complete&#8221;. Car Oracle, ce n&#8217;est pas que la célèbre database, c&#8217;est aussi beaucoup d&#8217;autres softs critiques (ceux de peoplesoft par exemple) et de services. La chaine d&#8217;Elisson est donc maintenant verticale et horizontale, il a renforcé considérablement sa position.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Personnellement je ne m&#8217;inquiète pas pour Mysql mais plus pour IBM ou Microsoft. Larry a souvent protéger son pré carré en mettant dehors des concurrents. Là il possède Java, de quoi sérieusement enquiquiner IBM qui a très largement misé dessus et avec Openoffice, il a de quoi concurrencer Micrososft.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Il est hégémonique sur la base de données et en plus, toujours pour en**rd*r IBM, il a du hardware de qualité, du serveur de combat, un OS qui tient la route&#8230;.. Alors qui c&#8217;est qui mange son chapeau ? C&#8217;est Steeve Balmer (Microsoft) et Sam Palmisano (IBM) pardi !</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Le grand perdant, ce n&#8217;est pas Mysql que son statut de base opensource de référence préserve de toute mort subite ou même moyen terme, c&#8217;est IBM à mon sens qui va se faire concurrencer énormément par Oracle sur ses marchés de services. Et pour peu que Larry Elisson se fache sur le segment du soft de bureau, Microsoft va reculer sur Office, son chouchou pendant que Google tente de lui tailler les flancs.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Warning : funny things to come !</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">PS : Merci à Nicolas.T de Toulouse pour l&#8217;idée de ce post <img src='http://www.wikigento.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>



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		<title>Magento, Mysql et les nouveaux Shanghaï d&#8217;AMD</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Philippe Humeau</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span class="477570809-29122008">Nous avions déjà  fais nos tests et </span></span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span class="477570809-29122008">le Shanghaï d&#8217;AMD sortait vainqueur </span></span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span class="477570809-29122008">du duel, ce qui nous avait  encouragé à équiper notre nouvelle infrastructure </span></span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span class="477570809-29122008">d&#8217;hébergement Magento entièrement en  Shanghaï. Anandthec, très sérieux site se concentrant sur les performances des  processeurs, a lui aussi fait des tests de performances, notamment sous Mysql et  le résultat est le même, une franche avance pour les nouveaux AMD. De plus,  d&#8217;après nos essais, ce qui est vrai pour le Mysql l&#8217;est également pour les pages  générées par le combo PHP/Zend/Magento. </span></span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span class="477570809-29122008">Vous pouvez donc y  aller franchement car, en conclusion, on peut dire que &#8220;Magento loves  Shanghaï&#8221; :<br />
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<div><span style="font-family: Arial;"><span class="477570809-29122008"><a title="anandtech" href="http://it.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=3484&amp;p=5" target="_blank">Source</a></span></span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span class="477570809-29122008">Le différentiel de  performances ne laisse pas l&#8217;ombre d&#8217;un doute, 27% de requêtes traitées en plus,  c&#8217;est un résultat écrasant (backend en InnoDB). </span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span class="477570809-29122008">Par contre, grosse méfiance, ce  qui est vrai pour le hosting LAMP ne l&#8217;est pas pour du MS+Oracle ou du calcul  pur ou encore de la virtualisation. Attention aussi au fait qu&#8217;il faut  privilégier les processeurs plus puissants à nombre de coeurs identiques puisque  Mysql n&#8217;est pas simple à scaler au delà de 4 coeurs.</span></span></div>



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